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I decided to go ahead and make an initial news dump from the Burbank convention to pass along items that might be of particular interest, then I'll do a descriptive report on the rest later. There are a few minor spoiler bits to report (thanks to Katee...surprise!) so everything will be behind the cut, but I'll also drop all the spoilers down to the very bottom for those who wish to avoid them.

First, the Battlestar Galactica convention was sharing facilities this year with the Stargate SG1/Atlantis convention. Gold Ticket members of either convention were allowed general admission to the other convention, and anyone could attend photo ops or autograph signings from either event. It was good and bad, as it increased the variety of panels to choose from, but it also made things much more crowded -- particularly at the Saturday Dessert and Sunday Brunch, which were combined events for Gold Ticket members of both conventions -- and the facilities at the Burbank convention center just aren't that big. And BTW, next year it will be a triple-event with BSG, SG1/SGA, and Firefly all sharing the same space.

Believe it or not, there really wasn't much talk about the strike beyond the fact that ALL of the guests support the WGA 100%. BSG cast members are currently unemployed, but because it's the holiday season none of them really seemed to mind too terribly much at this point. Katee mentioned that this is the first Thanksgiving in 9 years that she doesn't have to work, so she's actually enjoying it right now, though she doesn't want it to last beyond January 2nd.

No real news to report from Kate Vernon. It was great to see her, but she didn't have any recent projects to speak of...though we will see Ellen Tigh again in season 4. No, she isn't the 12th Cylon, but Saul's issues over murdering his wife for collaborating with the Cylons will naturally be further complicated by the fact that he IS a Cylon. So expect more flashbacks, hallucinations, dreams...that kind of thing.

I don't have much to report on from Tahmoh Penikett either because his session occurred at the same time as Michael Shanks'. I saw Tahmoh at Burbank last year and I had never seen Michael Shanks before so... I do know that Tahmoh and Grace were going out on the town in Hollywood on Saturday night, and possibly taking Michael Trucco along as well. So there just might be some paparazzi pics floating around out there somewhere. Check those photo editorial websites.

Cliff Simon (Ba'al) reported that in the upcoming SG1 movie, Ba'al does die. Or I should say that at least one of his clones dies...again. And we will finally get the real Ba'al to stand up and take a bow. There was also the implication that Ba'al just might figure rather prominently into the planned 3rd Stargate series.

Michael Shanks confirmed that production on SGA is not affected by the WGA strike because all of the writers on Atlantis are WGC. Daniel Jackson will also be making a guest appearance on Atlantis later this season. The "plan" at this point is to continue doing one SG1 movie a year (probably for DVD release like the two already in the can) and a 3rd movie was just recently pitched to MGM, approval still pending. His project (where he plays the devil) with Chris Judge is still moving forward and they are in the process of securing a distribution deal. He and Claudia Black plan to work together on a comedy project once she's had a little more time with the new baby who was born just a few weeks ago. Other than that, he's been taking it easy lately and has been too lazy to visit a barber, hence the need for a baseball hat to hide his long hair (and no he couldn't be persuaded to take the hat off!).

Katee Sackhoff is done with Bionic Woman, and not just because of the strike. She has a meeting with one of the producers after Thanksgiving, but does not expect to return to the show even if it does resume production (which I don't personally believe will happen anyway). She is even already trying to divorce herself from being associated with Sarah Corviss. Katee never came out and explicitly stated the reason for her departure from the show, but her thinly veiled sassy comments made it pretty apparent that there isn't a lot of love going on between her and Michelle Ryan. (Frankly, I'd go so far as to say that Katee was skating a fine line toward being rather unprofessional at times. I'm no fan of Michelle Ryan or Bionic Woman, but it's bad form in any industry to insult your co-workers in front of the customers, and Katee needs to be careful that she doesn't start burning bridges.) She will be spending Thanksgiving with her boyfriend and his family in Mexico and has no plans to work until at least after the holidays. Episode 4.11 is the last episode they filmed before shutting down on Friday, and Katee said it could serve as a SERIES finale...if necessary...but she personally believes the strike will be resolved no later than January and they will resume filming soon after.

Jamie and his family will be spending Thanksgiving with Mary McDonnell and Christmas with other friends in the LA area. Like Katee, he has no definite plans to work during the holiday season, except doing some writing of his own on a few projects that he hopes to produce once BSG has completely wrapped, but he is looking around at other unspecified opportunities now as well.

I may have some other non-Hollywood related news to report about Jamie and Katee's future activities, but it remains TBD at this point, so I'll withhold specifics on that for now. {keeping fingers crossed}








SPOILERS below - Spoilerphobes should go no further.

Kara spends a bit of time in the brig and a lot of time with Leoben. Episode 11 includes some sequences with Kara and Leoben in a forest (These scenes were filmed during the crew's shut down party, so she wasn't able to attend.) Somewhere along the line (don't know which ep) Kara has to build a bonfire on a beach out of driftwood. Kara has a lot of material with Laura this season as well as with the Cylon ladies. She said that Kara believes herself to be a Cylon, though Katee herself doesn't believe that she is, even though all the signs are pointing that way. Jamie confirmed that Lee is still a civilian and his one other little spoiler slip was an implication that the scenes Katee mentioned about Kara and Leoben occur on Earth.

UPDATE: I do not censor comments lightly. I chose to make all posts completely public and to allow anonymous comments for the specific reason that I want to leave all subjects open to everyone to participate and not limit discussion just to those who are my acquainted friends. But I do not harbor trolls. Period.

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On November 19th, 2007 03:43 pm (UTC), [info]ladyrhiannon873 commented:
I am glad that Katee is hoping that the writer's strike ends soon.I hope that it ends soon too.I would hate see writers lose their jobs like they did after the last writer's strike in the 1980's.
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On November 19th, 2007 05:02 pm (UTC), [info]dianora2 commented:
Thanks for the report! I skimmed the spoilers and kind of wish I hadn't, but that is my fault, not yours. *g* And interesting re: Bionic Woman. Too bad, since Katee is far and away the best part of the show.

Jamie and his family will be spending Thanksgiving with Mary McDonnell

Awww. And if the non-Hollywood stuff comes to fruition I hope you will share.

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On November 19th, 2007 07:27 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
And interesting re: Bionic Woman. Too bad, since Katee is far and away the best part of the show.
Which is why I'm personally pleased to hear that Katee won't be stuck in a minor supporting role there any longer. Her career will be much better served by getting out now.
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On November 20th, 2007 04:45 am (UTC), [info]dianora2 replied:
Well, mainstream network exposure never hurts (neither did all the mainstream press coverage she got for it), but yeah, long-term wise, absolutely.
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On November 20th, 2007 08:11 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
{giggles} I don't think Viva Laughlin is going to help Hugh Jackman any.
On November 21st, 2007 05:24 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Katee
Too bad about Katee possibly leaving Bionic Woman. She was the reason I started watching it. Over all I like it, but Katee adds so much to it.
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On November 19th, 2007 05:18 pm (UTC), [info]asta77 commented:
Thank you! It was driving me crazy not having some details. I read that Katee mentioned just signing another NDA so both she and Jamie were pretty tight lipped about spoilage. I don't think Jamie saying Lee remains a civilian is any huge announcement at this point.

The scenes between Kara and Leoben possibly being on earth don't surprise me. After all, she returns announcing she can lead them there and the scenes could be flashbacks or projections. Or Leoben leads her to believe it's earth, but it's not.

I may have some other non-Hollywood related news to report about Jamie and Katee's future activities, but it remains TBD at this point, so I'll withhold specifics on that for now. {keeping fingers crossed}

Hee. You know some people could read into this. ;) Over at the SciFi Forum there was some third or forth party information that Jamie was overheard saying he was on the short list for a pilot. Which is cool, but a lot of people are up for pilots this time of year. And in a reference he made in the interview I posted a link to today, he made a comment about reading scripts for procedurals. Hmmmmm.... Of course, this is all Hollywood related and your info is non-Hollywood related. Plays perhaps? I know he can't sing. ;p

I'm glad to read they appeared upbeat and not terribly upset about their current unemployment. I hope Katee is correct and this is over by January. Right now it's just an unexpected vacation for them. And I love Jamie and Mary so much that I'm thrilled about the Thanksgiving tidbit. :)

The Bionic Woman situation must have been really bad since it sounds like Katee asked to leave the show. Good thing she wasn't signed as a regular, it would have complicated matters. I agree with you though that the likelihood of the show continuing is slim. *Maybe* it will get a full season, but I don't expect to see it back next fall.

Thanks for the Stargate info too. I'm excited that Ba'al may play such a significant role in future projects.

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On November 19th, 2007 06:43 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Yeah, I wouldn't label any of the spoilers to be especially significant, but Katee was having a REALLY hard time keeping her lips zipped. It was just killing her not to blab away! Jamie was much more cognizant about just avoiding that territory.

I'm glad to read they appeared upbeat and not terribly upset about their current unemployment.
I think that fact that it's the holiday season had a LOT to do with it. Jamie is actually intrigued to experience the holiday shopping frenzy in Los Angeles. Go figure. They're just all happy to have the chance to spend a lot of time with their families this time of year.

Of course, this is all Hollywood related and your info is non-Hollywood related. Plays perhaps? I know he can't sing. ;p
And he won't to dance. :D But no, it doesn't involve theater either...much as I wish it did. It's actually something that they may be doing in their spare time while they have some time off. Nothing is set yet, but they were both very interested and appeared excited about the possibility...and this isn't something that anyone else who was at the convention knows about. We'll see what happens.

And I don't know if Katee asked to leave BW or if she was asked to leave. There was more than a tinge of bitterness cropping up here and there on the subject. Either way though, I have to say I'm pleased she won't be shackled into that show anymore. She's a lead singer who's been forced to sing backup for a mediocre band and she can do better than that. But I do hope she doesn't piss off too many people in the process, as I think she can be a little impetuous with her words at times.

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On November 19th, 2007 07:13 pm (UTC), [info]asta77 replied:
Jamie is actually intrigued to experience the holiday shopping frenzy in Los Angeles.

I'm betting that intrigue will last about a day. Especially if Kerry halls him out on Black Friday. :p

Nothing is set yet, but they were both very interested and appeared excited about the possibility...and this isn't something that anyone else who was at the convention knows about.

Ah, breakfast or auto line stories. ;) What's interesting is that they could both be involved.

I would lean towards Katee opting out of BW only because she's the one good thing about the show and getting the most press for it so I can't imagine David or NBC or whoever wanting to let her go.

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On November 19th, 2007 11:19 pm (UTC), [info]cherylad commented:
Thanks for the update (I got the link from a Skiffy friend, Hi! I'm Cheryl)

I suppose the good news about Katee leaving BW is that I can stop watching that tripe hoping it gets better and waiting on KS's next scene, but I hope she doesn't over-speak and get herself a "name". She really was the only thing that show had going for it.

Would love to hear what else they are working on. I think these two are phenom talents!

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On November 20th, 2007 01:18 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
I hope she doesn't over-speak and get herself a "name".
Katee admitted that on the BW set she actually had acquired a "name" of the sort that shouldn't be repeated around the ears of young children. But the show really was a train wreck and she's better off moving on.
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On November 20th, 2007 06:52 am (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
hi, I'm new here...
And being that I'm not a BG fan (not because I've anything against it, I don't have cable so I've never seen the show) I hope you don't mind my "crashing" your blog. I just wanted to ask about Katee not returning to BW. I realize it's almost certainly a moot point since I too am practically sure that BW is not long for this world. But I'm so curious that I was wondering, would you mind posting a quote of what Katee said about not coming back to the show? Or better yet, if you were allowed to take one, a video clip of it? Or were cameras not allowed?

I don't know much about either Katee or Michelle Ryan but I must say that I'm sad and more than a little shocked if they didn't get along and I can't imagine why that would be. Everything I've seen of both of them shows them to be very professional and humble people. Now I get that sometimes the chemistry is off and no one gets along with absolutely everyone but even still...very weird. The only thing I can think of is everyone's made such a big deal about how Katee upstages Michelle in the show that it caused tension between them and the writers wrote Katee out to keep her from stealing the spotlight away from Michelle. But even then I just can't picture either of them being catty. Especially not after watching the earlier scifi convention video that came out before the show began where they were both so complimentary toward each other. That's pretty awful if what you said about Katee being called names is actually true.

I do wholeheartedly agree, much as I loved Michelle Ryan on Jekyl, that BW is painfully bad and Katee was the best part of it by light years-far. Thanks for the report.

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On November 20th, 2007 04:44 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: hi, I'm new here...
Video taping is prohibited by Creation. Still cameras only. And I can't claim to have a perfect memory, so nothing that I report should be accepted as an exact quote, but I'll try to be as concise as I can. And you should remember that facial expressions communicate volumes and Katee is a VERY facially animated person, but it's difficult to pass that kind of thing along though a keyboard.

At the Sunday breakfast, Katee was asked by someone at our table when she would be back on BW, and she replied that she wouldn't. Not at all. The response at the table was to tell her she was the best part of the show, to which Katee replied, "Maybe that's the reason."

Later in the stage session when the subject of BW came up, Katee made a snarky comment about how the ratings for BW were {insert razzberry sound here} and it's unknown if NBC will resume production on the show after the strike, and if they don't it's no big deal to her. After again being told she was the best part of the show, she rather sarcastically asked the crowd if it's any wonder why the ratings are so low. The crowd supplied the answer (Michelle) to which Katee made no verbal response but through her animated faces (winces, rolling eyes, etc) and body language it was very plain that she agreed. She mentioned how when a fan comes up to her asking, "Are you Sarah Corviss?" she will actually tell them, "No, but I'm Starbuck!"

I wish I could remember exactly what the name was that Katee said they had given her on the set of BW. It was a combination of words along the lines of "difficult b!tch" but I don't recall the actual descriptor. Perhaps another convention goer will be able to report it correctly. I also think it says a great deal that although Katee never came out and pointed direct fingers at anybody on BW, she didn't offer any supportive words about the production or about Michelle, even when the audience had unflattering things to say about them. She accepted the criticisms of Michelle with a smile, wink, nudge, etc.

I saw Michelle Ryan at Comic Con and she certainly presented herself like a very personable lady, and even quite reserved compared to Katee, but of course I wouldn't have any clue what she's really like. Katee can be catty at times (just as she was in Burbank), though most of the time when she pokes fun at people it's all in good humor (such as calling Jamie Bamber a Bozo). Maybe Michelle is jealous and feels threatend by Katee...or perhaps Katee is accustomed to being the star and rankles at having to play second string. Or it could be both of those things. I happen to think it's most likely that if there are interpersonal problems both parties share the blame. But if NBC does still plan keep BW and nurture the show for the future then the blame game is irrelevent; the producers have to support their star over any recurring guest players.
On November 20th, 2007 09:36 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: hi, I'm new here...
Thanks for the follow-up report and answering my questions.

I don't know what to say on this topic...well, okay, I have a lot to say on it but it's not relevant to your convention post so I won't go on about it here. I do have to say though that I'm sad that people keep blaming Michelle Ryan for the mess that is her show when it's the show's horrific writers and producers who ought to take the blame for that and not the cast. I've seen Michelle in other projects and whether people believe it or not, she's a good actress. I'm not saying she's the next Meryl Streep or that there's not room for improvement - just that solely blaming her for the suckitude of BW is very unfair to her. And I've also seen and read many of her interviews from past projects and BW and she really does come across as very sweet and down to earth and I find it extremely hard to believe that she's be catty and name-calling to anyone behind the scenes. Even if she were jealous, I doubt she'd be vocal about it on set. But of course it's not like we'll ever know since we weren't there.

Thanks again.

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On November 20th, 2007 09:59 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: hi, I'm new here...
solely blaming [Michelle] for the suckitude of BW is very unfair to her.
I agree with you completely. I haven't seen her work elsewhere, but you're not the first person I've heard speak favorably of her in other projects. I don't think this particular role on BW suits her, but I don't think anyone could have spun gold out of the poor scripts that Michelle has had to work with. I too hold the writers primarily responsible for the show's shortcomings, and the meddling from network executives has contributed to the problems as well. I'm not sorry to see Katee moving on, and unless they hire a completely new writing team, I think it might also be in Michelle's best interest to hope for a quick cancellation so that she can move on as well.
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On November 20th, 2007 10:50 am (UTC), [info]prolix_allie commented:
Thanks for the goodies as always. That's surprising about Katee because she's always been very supportive of Michelle Ryan in the past, even at the most recent convention which was only a little over a month ago. I wonder what finally managed to break her...

Very cool that Jamie and Mary are spending Thanksgiving together. :D

As for the spoilers:

Oh, scenes on Earth! I only hope the Leoben is not!Leoben because the other one creeps me out. ;) And Ron said a couple months ago that the actor who plays the last cylon has been told, so I guess that means it's not Kara if Katee still doesn't know. But I'm still going to cling to my Hybrid theory. ;)

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On November 20th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
I agree that Kara probably won't be #12. ..Socrata is dead, so she's not #12 either. If Kara is a hybrid, who's the Cylon daddy? Saul? Sam? (That would be woopsie! moment, wouldn't it.) Then again, when Katee was told to "sell" Starbuck's death to her co-workers, they bought it hook-line-and-sinker. Can we really be certain that Katee isn't selling us all another whopper? ;)
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On November 21st, 2007 08:33 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
I was at the convention too. I was sitting way in the back when Katee was asking why BW was so low in the ratings. From what I heard, the response from the crowd was mainly, "because you're not in it enough", to which she replied something like, "well, I didn't say it". But again, I was in the back and couldn't hear what anyone was saying in the front. I had no idea she and Michelle did not get along. But yeah, she did mention she was meeting with a new BW show-runner to discuss her future on it. I did get the impression she didn't like the show very much and steers people to watch Battlestar instead. She promised that despite the strike, Battlestar will finish all its intended episodes eventually because having a complete season is more profitable with syndication and all that.

She also told an unrelated story where she and Tahmoh went out drinking in Hollywood when they were both single and he started to grope her butt and lick her neck when the paparazzi were outside Bar Marmont (they were drunk). She talked about drinking a lot!

I did get to meet Jamie Bamber and he really was the nicest, sweetest person. Probably the nicest "celeb" I've ever met. Katee was a little indifferent towards me, which was a little disappointing, but I know it was a long day with tons of people in her face. It was fun though.

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On November 22nd, 2007 12:03 am (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Are you sure you interpreted things correctly, because every other report I've read from the con says that Katee did not insult MR in any way,and did not say she had quit the show. (although she wasn't happy with it).
I think you have to be careful with the facts as your blog appears to be quoted as gospel on many sites (including USA Today)
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On November 22nd, 2007 01:06 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
#1 - I never said she insulted Michelle Ryan. I said that she never made any direct accusations, but was treading a fine line and that I did not want her to step over that line and risk burning bridges. But by the summary of all the comments that did she make there were strong implicatons of personalities clashing and she did not dispute the criticims that other people made against Michelle.

#2 - Katee's comment about not returning to the show at all was made at the Sunday breaksfast to the group sitting at my table, not during her stage session, so the majority of attendees would not have heard it.

#3 - Anybody who would quote the blog of someone they don't know and call it gospel is a fool. I know I'm credible. People who know me know that I'm credible. But for people who don't know me to rely on me as a singular unimpeachable source of news displays a need for folks to get a reality check on the nature of the Internet.
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On November 22nd, 2007 12:34 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
When Katee asked the crowd about the ratings for BW, the folks around me all pretty much fingered Michelle, but I'm sure the wording and responses were varied throughout the crowd. Katee avoided making any specific accusations and I've never heard her directly criticizing Michelle, but just as you pointed out she didn't dispute any of the criticisms from the crowd either. And the fact that she has been tagged with an unflattering nickname on the set (by somebody) is a pretty strong indicator that personalities are clashing somewhere and Katee did not cite any voluntary professional reasons for ending her involvement on the show.

She promised that despite the strike, Battlestar will finish all its intended episodes eventually because having a complete season is more profitable with syndication and all that.
And I'm sure Katee believes that, but I think there is a measure of wishful thinking mixed in. At this stage of the game, the penny-pinchers at the networks are focusing more on ways to cut their losses in the short-term (such as suspending the actors without pay) than on ensuring long-term gains. Pulling the plug on a low-rated scifi show on a minor cable network has to be considered a possibility. If Monday's negotiations are fruitful, it's likely we'll see 4.5 completed. If negotiations fall apart again...who knows?

Ah yes, the "Omaha" story :D I couldn't remember the name of the bar, so thanks! I'm trying to include that in my brain dump, but it's one of those bits that is very difficult to do justice to across a keyboard.

Jamie is truly a sweetheart, isn't he. I've met him three times now and he never ceases to impress me on both an intellectual and interpersonal level.
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On November 22nd, 2007 03:50 am (UTC), [info]prolix_allie commented:
Dana, I mean no offense, but I've heard from/read comments and reports from six other people who were at the Q+A (seven including the person who just commented), and all of them say that they didn't get the slightest impression that Katee was saying or implying anything about Michelle Ryan, or implying anything other than that she liked working on BSG more than on Bionic Woman. In fact, they were pretty shocked at the suggestion that she had and vehemently denied it. Given that out of eight people, you're the only one who got that impression, doesn't it now seem pretty likely that you misinterpreted?

According to everyone else, including another fan who taped the Q+A and provided a transcription, what happened was that someone asked why Bionic Woman wasn't doing so well, and the audience started shouting a bunch of different things. The loudest was "Not enough Katee!" To which Katee laughingly replied "Hey, I didn't say it!" Now, nobody else who was at the convention heard anyone say "Michelle." That doesn't mean no one said it, but the crowd was apparently very loud. So it seems highly likely that Katee didn't hear either, and was simply jokingly agreeing with the suggestion that she should be on the show more. It would also have been incredibly awkward for her to directly address what some random person in the crowd said about Michelle, and would only have made things worse, even if she had heard which it is very likely she did not. In any event, failing to leap to Michelle's defense against a random heckler, in what according to the transcription was about a 30-second portion of her talk, hardly amounts to being "catty" as you have said.

A while back you posted an entry in which you said that you thought Katee was getting too big for her britches (you didn't say why), and that she needed to accept the fact that she's not pretty enough to be a lead actress and settle for secondary roles. Later, when it became known that Katee's BW contract was in dispute, you speculated that she was being a primadonna and needed to get used to not being the star anymore. Don't you think it's possible that the reason your interpretation differs so much from that of seven others is that your preconceptions about this particular actress have influenced your interpretation?

I completely agree that it's not your fault USA Today has such shoddy journalism that they would take information from one fan's personal journal and publish it as fact. But now that they have done so, perhaps you would consider editing your entry since there is so much uncertainty as to what actually happened. One of the nicest things about the BSG cast has been their willingness to be candid with the fans. I think it's fair to say that you're rather more a fan of Jamie Bamber than Katee Sackhoff, right? Jamie has said some pretty ungaurded things about the shows and people he's worked with in public, which I won't repeat here for obvious reasons. Wouldn't it be awful if someone misinterpeted something he said and it got picked up by the media in a way that could be damaging to him? I fear that's what may have happened here, though I know you never intended it.

Thanks for your consideration.

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On November 22nd, 2007 07:28 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Now, nobody else who was at the convention heard anyone say "Michelle." That doesn't mean no one said it, but the crowd was apparently very loud. So it seems highly likely that Katee didn't hear either
I'll concede it's entirely possible that Katee's response was to a comment that she heard from the crowd other than from the people beside me. I'll just ask you to concede that what sounds on the recording to "very loud" is what people directly beside the recording device were saying. In a large crowd, every ad-hoc response is going to be different. I personally blamed the writers but I was the only one that I heard doing so. From where I was seated, Katee appeared to be responding to what I heard as the majority opinion and I reported it as such.

It would also have been incredibly awkward for her to directly address what some random person in the crowd said about Michelle
To that I would disagree. If someone unfairly criticized one of my teammates in my presence, I would definitely respond in their defense, and I would certainly hope that they would be willing to return the favor on my behalf. I hope for your sake that your coworkers would do the same for you.

you said that you thought Katee was getting too big for her britches (you didn't say why), and that she needed to accept the fact that she's not pretty enough to be a lead actress and settle for secondary roles
I said that there have been signs that Katee may have some inflated expectations, but that anything could happen. This is a very difficult industry for anyone to make a living at, and to even have one hit series on a resume is a rarity. That's just a fact of the industry. Katee is a lovely girl, but I'll stand by my personal opinion that she isn't quite in the same physical category as other A-list actresses (such as Halle Berry and Nicole Kidman) and that Katee's considerable acting talent is her best asset. As such, character roles would suit her well, which btw is that same thing that I said about James Callis, but you don't appear to have been bothered by that.

when it became known that Katee's BW contract was in dispute, you speculated that she was being a primadonna and needed to get used to not being the star anymore
What I said was that it was extremely strange to see such a contract dispute going on over a recurring guest role for a show that hasn't even aired yet. Somebody had unreasonable expectations for that kind of dispute to occur and you just don't see that happening over minor roles for a show that has yet to even establish an audience. Yes, I named Katee as potentially responsible, but I also said it was equally likely to be the network who needed a reality check. I did not take sides, nor draw any conclusions other than to view it as yet another potential bad omen for the success of the show (which so far has not proved my skepticisms wrong).

Don't you think it's possible that the reason your interpretation differs so much from that of seven others is that your preconceptions about this particular actress have influenced your interpretation?
I will freely concede that my preconceptions on any issue can color my interpretations. I'll just ask you to concede that the same applies to everybody else. Yes, I'm a bigger fan of Jamie than Katee, but I am still a fan of Katee even I'm not as rabidly devoted to her as others are. But don't you think it's possible that I have a greater degree of objectivity about Katee than some others who are more deeply devoted to her than I am?
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On November 22nd, 2007 07:29 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Part 2 (because LJ wimped)

I completely agree that it's not your fault USA Today has such shoddy journalism that they would take information from one fan's personal journal and publish it as fact. But now that they have done so, perhaps you would consider editing your entry
God help us all if supposedly reputable news organizations are actually treating anonymous bloggers as reliable sources for any of their stories. That's just incredibly irresponsible. But I can only report my own genuine experience as I experienced it, which is what I've done here. If others had a different experience, then that is for them to say and I encourage them to do so.

Wouldn't it be awful if someone misinterpeted something he said and it got picked up by the media in a way that could be damaging to him? I fear that's what may have happened here, though I know you never intended it.
I don't think I'm anywhere near that influential that my little journal is going to damage Katee Sackhoff's career. You're giving me WAY too much credit here. I also think it would be a HUGE mistake to expect bloggers to censor themselves out of fear of who might read it or that others might disagree with them. Say what you mean...mean what you say. That's what I've always done, and what I'll continue to do. If you disgree with me, continue to feel free to say so.



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On November 22nd, 2007 08:47 am (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
I have no idea what was said or implied at a breakfast table, so no comment on that. But I will add that I recall the shout from the crowd of 'no Katee' and that it appeared that was what she was responding to - her reaction followed immediately upon it and was directed to the area that it came from. I had no doubt that's what she was reacting to at the time, and was surprised to read the 'Michelle' comment in this LJ. I've no arguments with anybody, but it was not my experience that she directed any type of comment or expression toward Michelle Ryan while she was on stage.
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On November 22nd, 2007 09:23 am (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Thanks for contributing your experience.
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On November 22nd, 2007 05:59 pm (UTC), [info]aelfgyfu_mead commented:
Thanks for the con report--lots of interesting tidbits! And thanks for separating the spoilers so that I could avoid them!
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On November 24th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
You're very welcome.
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On November 23rd, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
Just wondering how one can make the assumption that an actress isn't attractive enough to be the star/lead when she can play a bit part on a big show and steal the thing from everyone? Reviews of BW almost universally stated that she was the REAL STAR of that show,that it was blatantly obvious, that she blew everyone else off the screen and that she was the only saving grace of a shoddy show. That the show's (technical) star vanished whenever they were on screen together. You must have read the reviews - this isn't a figment of my imagination. All this regardless of whether or not she has the girl next door looks of MR. Almost everyone seems/seemed to want her on that show in a much bigger role or to take over the lead entirely. Isn't that what a real star is? Someone that people find compelling and turn on to watch. It's not something that can be manufactured - it is just there. It's x-factor, which KS seems to have in spades. I'm sure the bean counters have noticed after the this whole BW debacle and are tossing around ways of turning it all into $$$. If not, they really aren't earning their keep. ps I think that if you surveyed your readers you'd find that an overwhelming majority found KS smoking hot. pps It's probably not journalistically sound to quote from facial expressions.
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On November 24th, 2007 05:22 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Reviews of BW almost universally stated that she was the REAL STAR of that show,that it was blatantly obvious, that she blew everyone else off the screen and that she was the only saving grace of a shoddy show.
And I will contend that Katee's success here can be attributed to her acting talent, not just to her looks. A pretty face does not make someone a "REAL STAR"...or Michelle Ryan too would have won praise and adulation.

Of course I've read the reviews...and I've never disupted them. But before you get your boxers into a bunch, the post where I speculated on Katee's post-BSG prospects was back well before BW aired, and it was not focused on Katee alone. It was a pragmatic look at the entertainment industry and what we might expect to see from the entire cast of BSG, from a statistical point of view. I didn't blow sunshine up anybody's ass or predict inevitable great things around the corner for anybody. Why? Because as much as we all might love our own favorites, the fact of the industry is that one hit show is already a greater degree of success than most actors will ever see. Two hit shows is exponentially rarer still. Even the casts of "Friends" and "Seinfeld" have failed to achieve it so far, and they are all MUCH bigger stars than anyone on BSG. Anything is possible for any of them, but by that same token we should also accept that their relative state of obscurity might not ever change.

Almost everyone seems/seemed to want her on that show in a much bigger role or to take over the lead entirely.
And yet, the exact opposite is what appears to be happening. There has to be a reason, and we agree that it isn't because of her performance in front of the cameras. So...?

I think that if you surveyed your readers you'd find that an overwhelming majority found KS smoking hot.
There are certainly some, and to those who fall into that category -- Enjoy! But I already know that the majority of people who I communicate with regularly have never seen her work, neither on BSG nor on BW, and they are completely indifferent to Katee one way or the other. I happen to be more of a fan of Katee than most people that I know. This is a mistake that I see many fans making, not just Katee's fans...that because they adore somebody, they assume that an "overwhelming majority" of other people feel the same. To this day though, I think the rabid Orlando fans still take the prize.

pps It's probably not journalistically sound to quote from facial expressions.
If I'd ever claimed to be a journalist, you might have a point. But then again, to ignore body language would be to ignore as much as 50% of a person's communication skills and that wouldn't be sound under any circumstances. Remember that the next time you're in a bad mood and you want yor boyfriend/husband to notice it without spelling it out for him.


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On November 25th, 2007 09:15 am (UTC), [info]beetlemier commented:
RE: KATEE SACKHOFF & BIONIC WOMAN
I was lucky enough to sit next to Katee (the woman is luminescent in real life - just beautiful) during the Breakfast. (I missed the talk later) During our conversation, she never mentioned Michelle Ryan. However, when Bionic Woman was brought up as a future job, she stated that she had finished filming her episodes and would be filming no more. I threw out that I wasn't going to watch anymore and to her credit she ignored me and did not comment. She went on to say that she felt there were better vehicles better suited to her work. I know that "facial expressions" aren't a factual component of a well investigated story. But, they do send a signal to the person who's listening and will later tell the story. To me, her facial expressions were not happy and the BW talk was a bit tense.

Full disclosure - I adore Katee Sackhoff.

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On November 25th, 2007 04:10 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: KATEE SACKHOFF & BIONIC WOMAN
Thanks for relating your experience. I'm glad you had the chance to sit next to her as I did. She does have a very charismatic presence.
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On November 27th, 2007 06:58 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
My experience was completely different
I was fortunate enough (or dumb enough to spend the money) to be a backstage VIP at the convention and I got to sit and talk to all four of them backstage. Maybe it’s because they weren’t “on” but they seemed a little more worried about the show not having a proper ending and sad about not working on BSG anymore. They all seem to be really good friends in real life so I would guess that it’s probably a lot like High School graduation.

Here are my impressions:

• Tamoh talked about the strike a lot and he 100% supports the writers but he said that a lot of people are out of work and many people in the entertainment industry (non-actors) are being fired. He seemed pretty somber when he talked about it; I think that the chance that he may never work on the BSG set again with all of his friends was setting in. He was really tired because he stayed up late the night before at the cast party then had a 5am flight to Burbank. He really loves the UFC and was dying to see it but he couldn’t get the PPV in his hotel room so he had to wait for his TiVo at home. He is such a sweet genuine person; he hugged me at least 4 times (once when I tried to give him beer that he ended up not taking) and just seemed like an all around “good guy” (just like Helo).
• Jamie was a little more upbeat than Tamoh but he seemed a little sad as well (it’s to be expected). We really didn’t talk about BSG too much (we talked about the, just him & his family and poker. He jokes around quite a bit and made some funny comments. He said that Tamoh was “a silly boy” with his UFC and he joked with Katee when she came backstage. He really won me over especially since I was never a huge Apollo fan; I’m definitely a Jamie fan now!
• Katee seemed the most down of all (although I think she was really hungry, she tried to sit and eat a bar of some kind and Erin told her she had to walk and eat it because she had to get ready for autographs). She was pretty quiet (compared to the others) and I just go the impression she was deep in thought. She has a great rapport with Jamie and those two joked around about how telling someone they look tired is like saying they look like crap. She was nice enough to go along with our idea of picking Jamie up for our photo op (and pulling her apart for hers) but she did seem more reserved than the others.

On November 28th, 2007 12:45 am (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: My experience was completely different
Just curious...how do you get a VIP pass and what do you get (besides getting to be backstage)? Sounds like you had a great time!
On November 28th, 2007 01:25 am (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: My experience was completely different
Bought it from Creation. We got to go to the front of the line for everything,brought us food and drinks (including beer, wine & mixed drinks) and they made sure we got to spend time with everyone. The Creation people were very nice to us.
On November 28th, 2007 01:36 am (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: My experience was completely different
Oh and one funny thing Katee & Jamie asked us that exact same question in that order. Katee was only impressed with the food and beer she said that made it worth it LOL.
On November 28th, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: My experience was completely different
Haha..good to know we think alike! I actually didn't even know there was a convention going on. I just happened to wander in during my lunch break because I work next door (although I'm a big BSG fan). I was surprised how expensive it was, but I guess they make a good deal of money out of it (or else they probably wouldn't attend). I did buy a "photo op" and it was totally worth it...but not as amazing as your experience!
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On December 10th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: My experience was completely different
Thanks for relating your extra experiences backstage. I was surprised they didn't say more about the strike during their stage sessions, particularly on the subject of their suspended contracts. But I suppose it's just as well since they couldn't really have said anything more than has been reported in the papers.
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On November 29th, 2007 05:06 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Katee-Sackhoff-Quotno/800028518

Katee Sackhoff by Alan Zenuk/NBC
Katee Sackhoff wants to set the record straight. "I have no plans to leave Bionic Woman, and Michelle Ryan" — who fills the title role — "is doing a great job. There's not one ounce of bad blood between us."

Sackhoff, whose flamboyant turn as Sarah Corvus has overshadowed Ryan on the struggling NBC series, tells TV Guide that she absolutely did not diss either BW or its star at a recent convention. (News of the alleged cattiness came from a blogger who attended the sci-fi confab.) "It's sad," says Sackhoff, "because you want to connect with the fans, and then they throw it in your face in a negative light."

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On December 10th, 2007 11:37 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
It's an interesting statement for Katee to make on multiple levels, but not entirely surprising considering that NBC has not yet made an official decision about the disposition of the show. You also forgot to quote the part where she qualified her denial by saying if the producers chose not to use her anymore, that would be fine with her, because she'd love a chance to pursue other opportunities -- so if such a thing wasn't even being considered by anybody, why would Katee make a point of bringing it up as a palatable option?
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On December 15th, 2007 01:22 pm (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
Idetrorce
very interesting, but I don't agree with you
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On December 15th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: Idetrorce
Fair enough. Care to elaborate?
I base my position on evidence and personal experience. What is your position based on?
On January 10th, 2008 07:23 am (UTC), an anonymous reader replied:
Re: Idetrorce
Isn't it about time that you deleted all of the misleading innuendo in this blog? I suppose an apology would be too much to ask for the trouble that you have caused this actress? It's hard to comprehend why you would waste so much time insinuating such negative things about someone - wouldn't it be healthier to use that time to write positive things about people you actually like or admire?

I pity Katee Sackhoff that she ever had the misfortune to sit next to you at a breakfast. She would probably find that fact more than a little nauseating. Was she anything but polite and courteous to you? She surely didn't do anything to deserve such public and damaging character assassination.

There are many actors that I don't particularly fancy, but I don't spend good money following them to conventions, seek them out to share a table and then turn around and slap them in the face, betraying their goodwill. Not nice. Not cool. More than a little obsessive and extremely nasty. Are you at all capable of discriminating between the actor, (who is known to be much loved and highly respected by her colleagues) and the character she plays on a TV show?

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On January 20th, 2008 05:54 pm (UTC), [info]roadrunnerdm replied:
Re: Idetrorce
So, you don't care to elaborate nor support your position with anything resembling facts or experience, but more than two months after the convention you're still hung up on it. You really need to rethink where the "obsessive" tag belongs. It's old news dear. Get over it and move on.

As for following Katee to the convention...get real. Here is where your total ignorance on the subject and about me is glaringly obvious. Michael Shanks, Jamie Bamber, Cliff Simon, and Bear McCreary are the reasons I spent money to attend the Burbank convention. I like Katee's work, but the fact is that I'm primarily indifferent about her. As anyone who attended the events knows full well, I didn't have to seek Katee out to briefly share a table with her at the Sunday breakfast; all of the actors make the rounds through the room to spend a few minutes at each table. The extra seat at our table happend to be next to me at both the desert and breakfast, as a result I sat next to all of the guests, including Jamie, Tahmoh, and Joe Flanigan. So here's a hint of advice...if you are going to be a troll...at least make a cursory effort to be informed on what you are trolling about, otherwise you just make a fool of yourself and spotlight your own ignorance.

And no, I don't see any cause for deleting or modifying my original post which was an honest report of the events that occurred that weekend for all of the convention guests. [You do realize Katee was not the only guest at the event, right? But you don't contest anything that I reported about anybody else?] Some people are willing to own their words and actions and stand by them even if the shit hits the fan...some people aren't. I stand by what I said, even if you have chosen to interpret some of it in a very screwy manner. And if the facts are really so troubling to you, then perhaps you need to give some serious consider over why that might be so.

Most importantly, if you really believe that my little blog has sufficient influence over the entertainment industry to impact anybody's career, then you need a serious reality check (which already goes without saying)...or hell I suppose I've wasted a golden opportunity to single-handedly resolve the writers' strike.
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On May 10th, 2008 02:00 am (UTC), an anonymous reader commented:
Nice quote
I'd rather be led to hell than managed to heavan.


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